tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post3827242889236967019..comments2023-09-10T12:26:24.511+03:00Comments on Israeli by Day, American by Night: Bulldozers & Construction in Downtown JerusalemIsraeli by Dayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-37357553921724970582008-08-25T14:14:00.000+03:002008-08-25T14:14:00.000+03:00Jeez, my mom can be so cheesy.Jeez, my mom can be so cheesy.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-3491565849849352942008-08-25T14:08:00.000+03:002008-08-25T14:08:00.000+03:00Your bulldozer blog was probably the most heartfel...Your bulldozer blog was probably the most heartfelt, expressive writing that I have read of yours. I could feel your emotional pain and distress for these innocent working people. Danny, you revealed so much of your inner self and your character through that blog. I am proud of you. I wish everyone could get along; but, does that surprise you?<BR/>PS: No one is more excited to hear from you than your mom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-32034336054797189282008-08-24T22:47:00.001+03:002008-08-24T22:47:00.001+03:00Thanks, Melissa. You sound more excited than my m...Thanks, Melissa. You sound more excited than my mom for this blog!Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-24250177608610910912008-08-24T22:47:00.000+03:002008-08-24T22:47:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-57237282354522019572008-08-24T22:01:00.000+03:002008-08-24T22:01:00.000+03:00hi....why haven't you written any new posts!!!!!!!...hi....why haven't you written any new posts!!!!!!! I'm dying to here your next installment........!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-65297230702280533252008-08-24T15:41:00.000+03:002008-08-24T15:41:00.000+03:00I can't believe I did that! I totally forgot the ...I can't believe I did that! I totally forgot the word "not."<BR/><BR/>I hope it makes better sense now.<BR/><BR/>Sorry.<BR/><BR/>I said you DID have your reasons, and meant to say you were not lazy.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-54343312385423870692008-08-24T15:08:00.000+03:002008-08-24T15:08:00.000+03:00I'd hardly say I'm being lazy. This is not, if yo...I'd hardly say I'm being lazy. This is not, if you've noticed, a political blog. So, for the sake of having a consistent, non-provocative blog that people can read and not worry about my bias this way or that way, I use the standard term. That's not lazy. I made a choice to have an entertaining, personal blog about my life and experiences. Not a political blog.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-45458018340017499242008-08-24T12:22:00.000+03:002008-08-24T12:22:00.000+03:00Well, at least you're being lazy about it, and hav...Well, at least you're being lazy about it, and have your reasons (with which I disagree of course).<BR/><BR/>It bothers me more when people simply accept what's most understandable because they're lazy, and can't put a clarifier in parentheses.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-39600453910080508652008-08-24T11:46:00.000+03:002008-08-24T11:46:00.000+03:00Very cogent arguments, but of course I remain in o...Very cogent arguments, but of course I remain in opposition. I do agree that it is precarious to perpetuate an incorrect term, but for the sake of conversation it often creeps in - even though I think they have a right to call themselves as they wish.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-15436095890131428472008-08-24T09:52:00.000+03:002008-08-24T09:52:00.000+03:00Well, I disagree in many ways. Obviously Palestini...<I>Well, I disagree in many ways. Obviously Palestinian is not an ethnicity. Palestinians are Arabs (at least when we refer to Palestinians and mean Arabs, because...).</I><BR/><BR/>Well, no arguments here.<BR/><BR/><I>Very much so it wasn't Roman "idiocy." You can call it Roman imperialistic evil to take a people from their land and go so far to remove them and their identity as renaming the land and cities... but it's not idiocy. In fact, it works pretty damn well, apparently.</I><BR/><BR/>Idiocy meaning fighting against HaShem's will, and denying his truth, Torah.<BR/><BR/>If you claim that they purposefully changed names of cities, I believe that's true, as part of their imperialistic plan. Even you claim that they purposefully named the area after Philistia for the same reason, I don't have anything to refute that. (Nablus = Napolis, Sebatia = Shomron)<BR/><BR/><I>I prefer to use Palestinian because I am using it as a nationality. I do believe they can refer to themselves as they want, and I'm going to use the term they prefer to use to refer to themselves. They have a claim to their own identity. Now, you may think, 'then why not use the term Palestine?' Simply enough, because their claim to their identity, in my view, ends with how they want to define themselves. They own themselves. They do not own Israel, or what they refer to as Palestine. So, they own themselves, and can name themselves as they wish, but they do not own the land - so I will call them Palestinians, but the land is Israel.</I><BR/><BR/>Technically (from a Western/galuth point of you), you would be quite correct here.<BR/><BR/>It is wrong to propagate the lie of their name, the bastardization of Philistines, which they are not, nor even claim to be. Ararfat at one time, claimed that they were Jebsites. Then once he saw that no one was buying it, he dropped that claim.<BR/><BR/>If anything they are Yishaelim, or spiritual or physical inheritors of the the status of the 7 nations who lay claim to our Land (and thus obligated to the associated punishments for such claims).<BR/><BR/>The Torah's goal for us is to seek out the truth. Let us call a group the most accurate name possible.<BR/><BR/>No, they don't have control of even their name.<BR/><BR/><I>And besides, I'm not talking one bit about ethnicity right now. I'm talking about nationality. Would it be any different if one of those bulldozer killers was Persian? No. So, the correct usage of term right now should be a nationality. They are trying to kill Israelis for their nationality, and they are killing because of their own national affiliation - that which they call Palestinian (of the land they refer to as Palestine).</I><BR/><BR/>I disagree. The "nationalistic" claim is just a strategy for wiping out Jews. On the side of "other Arabs" who can't even stand "palestinians," they're just doing the Saudi's and others dirty work.<BR/><BR/>The "palestinians" do not give a damn about this particular piece of land.<BR/><BR/><I>Hence, the term Palestinian can without fear be used to refer to a people that call themselves such.</I><BR/><BR/>No fear here, just a desire for accuracy.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-31498819957285750212008-08-24T02:13:00.000+03:002008-08-24T02:13:00.000+03:00Well, I disagree in many ways. Obviously Palestin...Well, I disagree in many ways. Obviously Palestinian is not an ethnicity. Palestinians are Arabs (at least when we refer to Palestinians and mean Arabs, because...).<BR/><BR/>Very much so it wasn't Roman "idiocy." You can call it Roman imperialistic evil to take a people from their land and go so far to remove them and their identity as renaming the land and cities... but it's not idiocy. In fact, it works pretty damn well, apparently.<BR/><BR/>I prefer to use Palestinian because I am using it as a nationality. I do believe they can refer to themselves as they want, and I'm going to use the term they prefer to use to refer to themselves. They have a claim to their own identity. Now, you may think, 'then why not use the term Palestine?' Simply enough, because their claim to their identity, in my view, ends with how they want to define themselves. They own themselves. They do not own Israel, or what they refer to as Palestine. So, they own themselves, and can name themselves as they wish, but they do not own the land - so I will call them Palestinians, but the land is Israel.<BR/><BR/>And besides, I'm not talking one bit about ethnicity right now. I'm talking about nationality. Would it be any different if one of those bulldozer killers was Persian? No. So, the correct usage of term right now should be a nationality. They are trying to kill Israelis for their nationality, and they are killing because of their own national affiliation - that which they call Palestinian (of the land they refer to as Palestine).<BR/><BR/>Hence, the term Palestinian can without fear be used to refer to a people that call themselves such.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-52289551192597431142008-08-24T00:43:00.000+03:002008-08-24T00:43:00.000+03:00B"HDude, don't you get it? There's no such thing ...B"H<BR/><BR/>Dude, don't you get it? There's no such thing as a Palestinian nor Palestine. It's all based on Roman idiocy and laziness and a desire for Borg style conquest.<BR/><BR/>If you're just using the term for clarity, then I suggest putting the correct word first "Arab" with "palestinian" in ( ).<BR/><BR/>You do make the important good point though about how there's no difference between which passport the Arab holds.<BR/><BR/>Ain't no diff.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-28280452449463674542008-08-23T21:14:00.000+03:002008-08-23T21:14:00.000+03:00Thanks Melissa!Thanks Melissa!Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-19761988270616601492008-08-23T18:56:00.000+03:002008-08-23T18:56:00.000+03:00hi danni, only recently discovered your blog...rea...hi danni, only recently discovered your blog...really enjoying it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-21105698621873802742008-08-22T15:52:00.000+03:002008-08-22T15:52:00.000+03:00Danny, you give me that same look when I wake up o...Danny, you give me that same look when I wake up on your couch. Now I'm really embarrassed.<BR/><BR/>Wait, is everybody reading this?Benji Lovitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10695249834038406639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-83220454842482818572008-08-20T16:26:00.000+03:002008-08-20T16:26:00.000+03:00It made sense. It's interesting to think that thi...It made sense. It's interesting to think that this same feeling could be felt in other places, without the external impetus of actually seeing symbols of the perpetrators (in this case, Arabs doing construction work).Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-10341381617939572732008-08-20T02:05:00.000+03:002008-08-20T02:05:00.000+03:00Ouch. Pretty intense.Thanks for the pics-it's hard...Ouch. Pretty intense.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the pics-it's hard to believe that it's really Rechov Yaffo over there. <BR/><BR/>A bit random perhaps but it somehow reminds me of my visit to the Olympics Arena in Munich. I think I felt more apprehensive and wary and at unease over there than at any of the concentration camps. Like the innocence and openness of the place is just sucha stark contrast to what took place there. So too, the bulldozers are just meant for construction and mindless digging--not for horror stories.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that made much sense but in my head n heart, it does. Please respect that ;)the sabrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134516234799909775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-36546785746653296492008-08-19T16:44:00.000+03:002008-08-19T16:44:00.000+03:00Hey MiaYeah, it's Jerusalem - downtown Yaffo Stree...Hey Mia<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's Jerusalem - downtown Yaffo Street next to Ben Yehuda Street and Pedestrian Mall nonetheless! It's so bad that the busineses had protests in the area because their profits are falling from all the construction.<BR/><BR/>I actually haven't really felt the tension before. I, as I've said, lived here during all the various attacks one can imagine. I've felt a certain amount of suspicion, and I always look at Arabs just out of a need to check my surroudings...but the level of suspicion and uneasiness has never been as strong. You see, after a bombing just seeing an Arab doesn't really make the connection. They don't have a bomb. After a bulldozer attack, however, seeing an Arab in a bulldozer certainly makes that connection.<BR/><BR/>It's just a bad situation.Israeli by Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372641972664155753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8554337268732390744.post-56867906984466170302008-08-19T14:50:00.000+03:002008-08-19T14:50:00.000+03:00Two things came to mind while reading this post:1....Two things came to mind while reading this post:<BR/>1. Is that Jerusalem? That looks terrible. The light train project of Haifa has made a mess of the city also, but not that much of a mess. I hope they finish up quickly.<BR/>2. How did you not feel that tension, before? I especially felt it during the bombings. I had a conversation about this once with someone I worked with: what it feels like when people look at you and see a potential terrorist, and what it's like looking at people and trying to figure out if they are going to explode.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com